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	<title>Comments on: 2 Johns, and The Case for Term Limits</title>
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		<title>By: Something New Every Day &#187; Shocker: Another Long Serving Congressman Investigated By FBI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Something New Every Day &#187; Shocker: Another Long Serving Congressman Investigated By FBI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days ago I wrote about the two longest serving congressmen, which turned into a discussion about term [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That seems too strict to me.  I just don&#039;t think you get enough institutional knowledge with an arrangement like that.  I think what would happen is a very powerful (even more powerful than today) class of  &quot;shadow&quot; congressmen, in the form of advisers and lobbyists, would develop.  And those people aren&#039;t accountable to anyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have term limits in AZ, and we&#039;ve had a series of really good (and I mean that sincerely) legislators who have to retire because they have reached their limit.  Our limit is 4 consecutive 2 year terms (8 years total).  But you can move from House to Senate, then the limits reset.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The odd side effect of that is you end up with legislative leadership (House Speaker, etc.) being someone who really doesn&#039;t have that much experience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, term limits yes.  But a little more loose.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, I am willing to admit my opinions on this topic are nothing more than opinions, and are based on no first hand knowledge and very little research.  So I am persuadable on this one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems too strict to me.  I just don&#8217;t think you get enough institutional knowledge with an arrangement like that.  I think what would happen is a very powerful (even more powerful than today) class of  &#8220;shadow&#8221; congressmen, in the form of advisers and lobbyists, would develop.  And those people aren&#8217;t accountable to anyone.</p>
<p>We have term limits in AZ, and we&#8217;ve had a series of really good (and I mean that sincerely) legislators who have to retire because they have reached their limit.  Our limit is 4 consecutive 2 year terms (8 years total).  But you can move from House to Senate, then the limits reset.</p>
<p>The odd side effect of that is you end up with legislative leadership (House Speaker, etc.) being someone who really doesn&#8217;t have that much experience.</p>
<p>So, term limits yes.  But a little more loose.</p>
<p>Of course, I am willing to admit my opinions on this topic are nothing more than opinions, and are based on no first hand knowledge and very little research.  So I am persuadable on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been jumping up and down about term limits since 1994, but when the vote was defeated by one in 95 no one&#039;s talked about them. Not even talk radio. It&#039;s really bullshit. It would fix so much of this stuff.

And I&#039;d be stricter about the whole thing. 3 terms as rep, 2 as senator. Then that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been jumping up and down about term limits since 1994, but when the vote was defeated by one in 95 no one&#8217;s talked about them. Not even talk radio. It&#8217;s really bullshit. It would fix so much of this stuff.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d be stricter about the whole thing. 3 terms as rep, 2 as senator. Then that&#8217;s it.</p>
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